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water overflow s1

Post by zedex » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:30 pm

Hi. I have a small water issue. Now this happens maybe once every 2 weeks. When my vivaldi s1 heats up, the steam boiler overfills and leaks out onto the counter. I know its the steam boiler because we have tea in the morning and i use water from the steam boiler. Usually, i fill up 1 cup for tea, and the machine refills the steam boiler. But when it leaks all over the counter, i can fill up 3 cups of water before the boiler starts refilling. I didnt even think 3 cups was possible. After the machine refills i can use the machine for 2 weeks and machine is fine, then again. I find water all over the counter.
So i figure 1 of the water fill sensors is corroded up and overfills. Second question. When it does overfill and creates water all over the counter, where is the water leaking out of? Is there a valve of some type releasing water? Hmmmm.
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Re: water overflow s1

Post by chas » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:06 pm

There are 3 ways that water can escape the steam boiler. 1) Loose hose or fitting 2) Vacuum Breaker Valve 3) Pressure Release Valve.

You can probably rule out #1 since that issue would likely leak continually. The VBV, assuming it is working correctly, can only leak before the water comes to a boil. Steam pressure pushes it closed in normal operation. The Pressure Release Valve would cause an explosive leak when the steam boiler pressure got too high.

The most obvious place for a leak is the Vacuum Breaker Valve while the boiler is initially heating. However, this would be the effect and not the cause. The most likely cause is that the water level sensor has either been pushed up and needs to be pushed back down and the bolt holding it tightened or it has become encrusted with minerals and needs to be removed and descaled in white vinegar or citric acid.
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Re: water overflow s1

Post by zedex » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:03 pm

Thank you Chas. :grin:

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Re: water overflow s1

Post by chas » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:40 pm

Have you been able to get a handle on your specific issue yet?
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Re: water overflow s1

Post by zedex » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:41 pm

Hi Chas. No not yet as i have a few more questions. I dont want to take the machine apart until i know if i will need specific seals.
So another small issue is the water dispenser dripping. I assume there may be a deposit/foreign object maybe in a solenoid?
So question 1. Will i need parts/seals when i take apart the boiler?
and 2. The dripping water dispenser,will i need parts for that? If so i will order parts first, and then tackle the tear down.
And question 3. Where can i order these parts in the US or Canada?
Thanks
Colin

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Re: water overflow s1

Post by chas » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:45 pm

If you're still just trying to track down that leak, you only need to be removing a couple of fittings from the top of the boiler. Putting them back only requires Teflon tape wrapped around the threads. You should only need to remove the top of the boiler if you plan to descale. If you are planning that, there is a round gasket you'll need to order first. Replacing it can be a bear. The gasket sits in a groove in the lid and you'll need to pry and scrape for quite a while to get the groove completely cleaned out and ready for a new gasket.

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The hot water issue must be the solenoid valve. Just try removing the valve and flushing out the fitting. Something must be stuck in there preventiing it from closing completely.
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Re: water overflow s1

Post by zedex » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:46 pm

Thanks Chas.

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