naked portafilter
naked portafilter
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Hi!
I will want to buy a naked portafilter when I get my S1 (and it is going to be really soon ).
I would buy from 1st-line but unfortunately they don't ship outside US.
So I have a question: are the naked portafilters from other suppliers the same good? I have a very limited judgment ability - basically by photo and the one at 1st-line looks 'better' (on the picture ) then for example the one at espressoparts. So are they heavily enough built, correct size, weight, etc? Any recomendations (please ) ?
Thanks
Pawel
Hi!
I will want to buy a naked portafilter when I get my S1 (and it is going to be really soon ).
I would buy from 1st-line but unfortunately they don't ship outside US.
So I have a question: are the naked portafilters from other suppliers the same good? I have a very limited judgment ability - basically by photo and the one at 1st-line looks 'better' (on the picture ) then for example the one at espressoparts. So are they heavily enough built, correct size, weight, etc? Any recomendations (please ) ?
Thanks
Pawel
The best ones are cut from actual Spaziale factory PF's (they're not made by Spaz but someone else who does it for them).
These will be the best fitting ones, the feel of the weight and ears are just right. Chris' Coffee doesn't ship internationally?
I wouldn't worry too much about using just the standard PF's, I actually DO NOT LIKE the taste of espresso from a naked. Although, they're a great troubleshooting tool and good to have around.
These will be the best fitting ones, the feel of the weight and ears are just right. Chris' Coffee doesn't ship internationally?
I wouldn't worry too much about using just the standard PF's, I actually DO NOT LIKE the taste of espresso from a naked. Although, they're a great troubleshooting tool and good to have around.
I too have one of Lino's creations, bought from Chris and shipped to the UK. If you e-mail Chris and ask him nicely he may put you in touch with one of his very helpful staff to enable an international purchase. :D
Regards
Eric
PS I have also bought the No Burn and the S5 steam wands, love the S5 steam wand along with the new 4 small diameter hole tip. Excellent heads up on these from all on the group, many thanks.
Regards
Eric
PS I have also bought the No Burn and the S5 steam wands, love the S5 steam wand along with the new 4 small diameter hole tip. Excellent heads up on these from all on the group, many thanks.
Call them or email:coffeeowl wrote:unfortunately I didn't get any response from ChrisCoffee about international order and shipping. So what now? :?
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Yes, I asked about shipment to Russia, and they quickly responded that it was something they would do. I balked at the price (about $51 for a Bumper tamper stand and knockbox--your naked pf should be around the same), and I will do it via a relative traveling soon to the US. However, they did answer me in the affirmative.
Like you, coffeeowl, I assumed that the absence of a country option outside the US and Canada in the shopping basket meant that they wouldn't ship elsewhere. That's not so. They will ship overseas upon request.
Why they didn't answer you...hard to say.
Like you, coffeeowl, I assumed that the absence of a country option outside the US and Canada in the shopping basket meant that they wouldn't ship elsewhere. That's not so. They will ship overseas upon request.
Why they didn't answer you...hard to say.
Maybe because I used the 'contact us' form on their webpage. I'll try again by email.
Anyway I found an European site where the naked portafilter is available, and they even have a blindfilter for S1.
The portafilter looks like this:
http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/shop/catal ... -2904.html
Funny thing is they advertise it to be better then the ones cut from the originals...
Anyway I found an European site where the naked portafilter is available, and they even have a blindfilter for S1.
The portafilter looks like this:
http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/shop/catal ... -2904.html
Funny thing is they advertise it to be better then the ones cut from the originals...
I wouldn't consider any other PF than the stock Spaziale being better. Spaziale PF's are very heavy, anyone else care to post a weigh-in on any 3rd party versions, please do so.
One of the Spaziale ones I use weighs a whopping 793 grams!
I like how they note naked PF's create better creme on that site, it's NOT better...it's just bigger bubbles which create the illusion of more creme.
One of the Spaziale ones I use weighs a whopping 793 grams!
I like how they note naked PF's create better creme on that site, it's NOT better...it's just bigger bubbles which create the illusion of more creme.
I have the naked from 1st Line, and it is perfectly OK. It isn't better than any other (even though it was chromed after cutting away the bottom of somebody's normal pf).
Almost by definition, a naked portafilter does less for the coffee than any other, although it lets you see more. The mass of a spouted filter is reduced so that heat retention is no longer as great. The path of the coffee into the cup is less turbulent and therefore not as much churned and mixed. (This, I think, is related to Niko's point about how the crema is coarser and therefore seemingly more voluminous.)
Because of the mild influence of any naked pf on the coffee, you should chose any one of them based on convenience and price. There is no quality issue to onsider.
Almost by definition, a naked portafilter does less for the coffee than any other, although it lets you see more. The mass of a spouted filter is reduced so that heat retention is no longer as great. The path of the coffee into the cup is less turbulent and therefore not as much churned and mixed. (This, I think, is related to Niko's point about how the crema is coarser and therefore seemingly more voluminous.)
Because of the mild influence of any naked pf on the coffee, you should chose any one of them based on convenience and price. There is no quality issue to onsider.
I'm still surprised that Chris won't ship to you, expensive as it might be, once you e-mail them about it.
For a bottomless (probably not carved out of a La Spaziale original to judge by the picture) pf, you could try www.pasmarose.de. Take a look at this linkhttp://www.pasmarose.de/catalog/product ... e09a3ee872which I can't seem to hide like everybody else on the forum. They say they ship to Europe for 6 euros and the pf costs 36 euros. They have a lot of other nice things.
For a bottomless (probably not carved out of a La Spaziale original to judge by the picture) pf, you could try www.pasmarose.de. Take a look at this linkhttp://www.pasmarose.de/catalog/product ... e09a3ee872which I can't seem to hide like everybody else on the forum. They say they ship to Europe for 6 euros and the pf costs 36 euros. They have a lot of other nice things.
This is what the code would look like:Weska wrote:Take a look at this linkhttp://www.pasmarose.de/catalog/product ... e09a3ee872which I can't seem to hide like everybody else on the forum.
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Weska,
thanks for the link. I wanted also the blindfilter and a knockbox and a Reg Barber tamper (now I only have Schomerisch aluminium convex Ergo Packer, I'd love to use stainless steel Reg Barber convex & flat) plus some brushes and shot glasses. It's alltogether reasonable to get it all in one*, except that the shipping cost is crazy. I asked them for contact and then phoned them and now I'm awaiting an email with the package dimensions and weight.
Theoretically I could get the bottomless from Pasmarose and then the blindfilter from Hasbean but again: no RB and I pay for shipping twice.
EDIT: * from Espressoparts
thanks for the link. I wanted also the blindfilter and a knockbox and a Reg Barber tamper (now I only have Schomerisch aluminium convex Ergo Packer, I'd love to use stainless steel Reg Barber convex & flat) plus some brushes and shot glasses. It's alltogether reasonable to get it all in one*, except that the shipping cost is crazy. I asked them for contact and then phoned them and now I'm awaiting an email with the package dimensions and weight.
Theoretically I could get the bottomless from Pasmarose and then the blindfilter from Hasbean but again: no RB and I pay for shipping twice.
EDIT: * from Espressoparts