Should extraction be this hard?

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Should extraction be this hard?

Post by GotGoodCoffee? » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:29 pm

I just became a Mini Vivaldi II and Baratza Vario owner and have yet to pull a decent, drinkable shot. Not sure if its my inexperience, incompetence, but would appreciate advice. So far, I have had some difficulties setting the vario to a good setting, I have used macro on 1 and 2 and micro around the middle, slightly above and below middle as well. Seems fine enough but shot starts dropping around 6-7sec, complete in 23-25, and taste bitter,awful. I have tried using 16g - 19g of quality coffee. Please share your expertise and advice for a newbie. Thanks.

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Re: Should extraction be this hard?

Post by Abnuceals » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:40 pm

Do you have the preinfuser ? If so, it's normal it starts to drip at 6-7 sec. You should add more or less 25 seconds, so a total of more or less 31-32 seconds. Grind finer, aim for a total of 31 seconds and it will be much less bitter.
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Re: Should extraction be this hard?

Post by MDL » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:37 pm

I would suggest trying 14 or 15 grams of coffee. I grind for single dosing and generally use a single basket worth of beans a double shot.

It can be frustrating at first but generally comes together quickly.

Good luck...

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Re: Should extraction be this hard?

Post by sandefur » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:01 am

Did you ever get able to make a good shot? I am having the same problem you did and am considering returning the S1.

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