Hi,
My S1V2 on the way :)
Working on the plumbing...
I gonna use a 8L Softener with 3/8" in and outs, and Pentek 101L filter with 1/4" in and outs.
My water line is 3/8" out.
I think 6mm (1/4") lines between everything should be fine, is it ?
If not, the other options is 8mm (5/16").
What do you suggest ?
Plumbing lines
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Re: Plumbing lines
My entire run is 3/8" and i am very happy with it. This is what Chris Coffee recommended for the S1. However, there are some users with 1/4" line that say it works fine for them.
Chas
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Mazzer Kony E, Customized Rocky
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Re: Plumbing lines
The cost to make the change is very low. however I prefer 6mm for now since its gonna be visible (rented house).
The big question i'm asking, What could be the problem if the 6mm is not enough ? Can it harm the machine ?
And also, how can I tell if its not enough ?
The big question i'm asking, What could be the problem if the 6mm is not enough ? Can it harm the machine ?
And also, how can I tell if its not enough ?
Re: Plumbing lines
If the small lines can't supply enough water you can get cavitation in the pump (or so I hear). The visual difference between 1/4 and 3/8 lines is very small and I would suggest that you just go with 3/8 from end to end and avoid any worry.
Re: Plumbing lines
when I translate cavitation to my language it doesn't make sense :) lol.
My logic say that when the tube is lower the pressure is higher. Doesn't the pump need the right pressure instead of volume ? after all the amount of water taken is not that high.
My logic say that when the tube is lower the pressure is higher. Doesn't the pump need the right pressure instead of volume ? after all the amount of water taken is not that high.
Re: Plumbing lines
The issue is volume delivered per unit time, not pressure. Some machines require a 3/8 line to give adequate flow. I believe that there are folks who have run the Vivaldi using 1/4 lines, but Chris suggests 3/8 and that is what I have used. I can't actually speak to how it works with 1/4 lines.
Re: Plumbing lines
Someone suggested me to do simple test, fill bottle of 500ml and check time, as long as its less then 15 sec I'm good.
sounds legit ?
sounds legit ?
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Re: Plumbing lines
The best test is to pull a shot and run hot water at the same time. If the pump is starving for water it'll make a lot of noise and tell you. If all is quiet then you are good.
Chas
LM GS/3 & LaSpaziale Dream v 1.25 (US 120V)
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Mazzer Kony E, Customized Rocky
Hottop P/B
Re: Plumbing lines
My S1 is plumbed using 1/4" and it's never been an issue. But I've never run the hot water spout while pulling a shot, since that's not part of my routine.chas wrote:The best test is to pull a shot and run hot water at the same time. If the pump is starving for water it'll make a lot of noise and tell you. If all is quiet then you are good.
Re: Plumbing lines
Plumbing is ready, all 1/4".
Machine is delayed :(
The store I bought from is in Italy and working with La Spazialle directly.
They say working with La Spazialle is never easy, lots of delays and service issue's :(
So its the 3rd week i'm waiting for the S1V2 to arrive... dammit!
Thanks for your answers, will test everything as recommended when it will arrive.
Machine is delayed :(
The store I bought from is in Italy and working with La Spazialle directly.
They say working with La Spazialle is never easy, lots of delays and service issue's :(
So its the 3rd week i'm waiting for the S1V2 to arrive... dammit!
Thanks for your answers, will test everything as recommended when it will arrive.